tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post103091183490541099..comments2024-03-28T00:18:25.641-07:00Comments on Calafia Beach Pundit: The US has experienced very little warming since 2005Scott Grannishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14028519647946868684noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-75779666255159991222019-09-05T05:30:36.871-07:002019-09-05T05:30:36.871-07:00The advocacy for “settled science” has probably do...The advocacy for “settled science” has probably done more to create skepticism than any other position taken by folks who argue for “doing something about the climate” immediately. The hysteria always comes off sounding like a scare tactic.<br /><br />The NOAA-US Climate Reference Network report says that past readings were not properly gathered, we now know why and this should lead to better cbt141https://www.blogger.com/profile/16497584844044298481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-11704724972949861552019-09-04T08:56:01.869-07:002019-09-04T08:56:01.869-07:00Thanks misterkrusty. This is the first explanation...Thanks misterkrusty. This is the first explanation of the anomaly that makes sense.The Commodity Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11518485068505658443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-1928995148825505002019-09-04T08:49:03.009-07:002019-09-04T08:49:03.009-07:00Scott: first off, I'd like to say sorry if my ...Scott: first off, I'd like to say sorry if my earlier comments sounded confrontational. I appreciate your blog very much, and the fact that we disagree sometimes makes it more valuable to me, not less.<br /><br />I asked a professor I know at Cornell University for comments on your blog post. He's a geologist, but the geology and climate science departments at Cornell have merged, so hemisterkrustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593047361808728232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-42540257823739576242019-09-03T15:38:23.464-07:002019-09-03T15:38:23.464-07:00As I understand the physics, CO2 does impact globa...As I understand the physics, CO2 does impact global temperature to some extent, but its effects are logrithmic and are quite saturated already. The default status of the Earth for the past million years or so is massive continental glaciers - an extended ice age. We are fortunate enough to live in a brief interstadial. Hopefully, human activity including CO2 will prolong our interstadial. Illuninatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423190828865695564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-58499408881815932502019-09-03T10:35:07.666-07:002019-09-03T10:35:07.666-07:00Specifically, there is clear consensus among clima...Specifically, there is clear consensus among climate experts that rising C02 levels are causing warming of the earth. As one of many examples see this 2019 Science editorial which cites specific studies.<br />https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6452/411<br /><br />You can always find sets of statistics that appear to support a different view, but science works by accepting and acting upon Irishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17249992011884818933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-22927386402051077132019-09-02T21:45:54.414-07:002019-09-02T21:45:54.414-07:00Gird: Thank you. Gird: Thank you. Scott Grannishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14028519647946868684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-76766847585081590132019-09-02T04:23:54.910-07:002019-09-02T04:23:54.910-07:00Consensus about what?
There is broad agreement tha...Consensus about what?<br />There is broad agreement that global temperatures have risen (somewhat irregularly) over the last 150 years.<br />There is less broad an agreement as to whether this warming or some part of the warming has been caused by rising CO2 levels.<br />When discussing future rates of warming the breath of agreement fades further.<br />Even more disagreement arises over the cbt141https://www.blogger.com/profile/16497584844044298481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-25188370133658870022019-09-01T12:12:04.556-07:002019-09-01T12:12:04.556-07:00I have never commented before, because I am not an...I have never commented before, because I am not an economist. But I AM a bona fide, PhD scientist. And 100% of the hundreds of other scientists I know ALL believe the experts when they say the earth is warming due to CO2 emission. (Does anyone remember the man-made ozone layer destruction by refrigerants? Won the Nobel Prize? Was that also a conspiracy?)<br />It is a lie to say there is no MAJOR Irishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17249992011884818933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-34365739264372771022019-08-30T15:15:36.569-07:002019-08-30T15:15:36.569-07:00Gird, BravoGird, BravoBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18190525712352815677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-52945712028087374462019-08-30T10:10:04.364-07:002019-08-30T10:10:04.364-07:00It's hard to go against what seems to be an ov...It's hard to go against what seems to be an overwhelming consensus among scientists. But accepted science occasionally proves wrong. Until Einstein's 1905 bombshell, did not most institutions of higher learning worldwide speculate that light probably travels through ether?<br />An interesting book is Lee Smolin's "The Trouble with Science." It was not aimed at climate Girdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18383696042556648844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-17434844487818536622019-08-29T06:30:32.179-07:002019-08-29T06:30:32.179-07:00You’ve cited Newsweek.You’ve cited Newsweek.cbt141https://www.blogger.com/profile/16497584844044298481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-20386977075978821192019-08-29T05:02:55.238-07:002019-08-29T05:02:55.238-07:00This article posted by misterkrusty exposes the di...This article posted by misterkrusty exposes the dishonesty of Taylor's argument. Taylor says that his data comes from 114 weather stations starting from 2005. But it turns out that only 60% of those weather stations were operational in 2005. The data in Taylor's average changes across the period. So the whole argument is garbage. In fact there has been no change in the warming trend in Ianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14639267999660217122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-47605543104114340342019-08-28T16:05:00.156-07:002019-08-28T16:05:00.156-07:00Well, if climate change isn't contentious enou...Well, if climate change isn't contentious enough...<br /><br />https://www.wsj.com/articles/collapse-of-the-inequality-argument-11567024434<br /><br />I don't know about collapse of the argument, but serious pause.<br /><br />"Even accounting for the Obama inequality spike, it seems the distribution of wealth and income really hasn't changed all that much. [..] This already shakyrandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16368254229927808998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-36286871903927873262019-08-28T11:08:29.913-07:002019-08-28T11:08:29.913-07:00Mr. Krusty:
This theory from the 1970's was i...Mr. Krusty:<br /><br />This theory from the 1970's was in my last comment.<br /><br />It was featured in the 1979 Charney Report.<br /><br />"A 100% increase in atmospheric CO2 should increase the average global temperature by from +1.5 to +4.5 degrees C. (roughly +2.7 to +5.8 degrees F.)"<br /><br />It has been falsified by observations (measurements) but will not die !<br /><br />The Cliff Claven of Financehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541954550199246606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-77445468267475658582019-08-28T10:06:30.699-07:002019-08-28T10:06:30.699-07:00Anyone can cite what they want to support their ow...Anyone can cite what they want to support their own confirmational biasis:<br /><br />http://leftexposed.org/2015/12/union-of-concerned-scientists/<br /><br />The Union of Concerned Scientists is a left-wing advocacy organization that spreads unscientific alarmism about environment and energy topics. It is currently bragging about being a major architect and proponent of using the federal RICO Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18190525712352815677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-24322466522502154452019-08-28T09:59:05.421-07:002019-08-28T09:59:05.421-07:00For a guy that makes sense, William Nordhaus
http...For a guy that makes sense, William Nordhaus<br /><br />https://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2018/MurphyNordhaus.html<br /><br />"William Nordhaus was a co-recipient of this year’s Nobel Prize in economics for his pioneering work on the economics of climate change. On the day of the Nobel announcement, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC) released a randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16368254229927808998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-68150807407043389352019-08-28T09:58:33.294-07:002019-08-28T09:58:33.294-07:00This isn't the first time that folks (includin...This isn't the first time that folks (including Mr. Taylor) have used USCRN data to cast doubt on climate change. Here are two articles debunking their approach:<br /><br />https://www.forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2014/07/15/the-latest-climate-change-denial-fact-twisting/#4d000a96607c<br /><br />https://www.newsweek.com/misterkrustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593047361808728232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-59614618928663725422019-08-28T09:48:35.644-07:002019-08-28T09:48:35.644-07:00The way I see it, there isn't any position pap...The way I see it, there isn't any position paper one can readily believe. Temperature change measurements themselves are in absolute terms very small, which makes attributing specific causes to that very, very hard to accept for those without an agenda. There is an endless set of data points that can be cherry picked and arranged to meet any argument. And as Cliff notes, extrapolating randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16368254229927808998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-52391424800520208872019-08-28T09:26:32.929-07:002019-08-28T09:26:32.929-07:00I love your blogs. They are terrific.
One simpl...I love your blogs. They are terrific. <br /><br />One simple comment--I was not comforted by this data at all. If temps have only risen 0.60 degrees in the past 15 years, and if that average continues unabated during the next 90 years. the average temp will have risen 3.60 degrees. My understanding is that an average temp rise of 3.6 degrees over 90 years has the strong potential to be Harryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00181147704308097348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-42917593055243301972019-08-28T08:55:57.110-07:002019-08-28T08:55:57.110-07:00Scott Grannis: how is the IPCC "biased and un...Scott Grannis: how is the IPCC "biased and unscientific"?<br /><br />You are citing an article by a non-scientist who works for a right-wing think tank. No bias there!<br /><br />Any reasonable person can see that the biggest potential source of funding to sway the debate over global warming is the fossil fuel industry, just as they did decades ago regarding leaded gasoline.misterkrustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593047361808728232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-79428578211232024782019-08-28T08:47:48.394-07:002019-08-28T08:47:48.394-07:00Johnny Bee Dawg:
You said, "The Climategate...Johnny Bee Dawg: <br /><br />You said, "The Climategate emails revealed a systematic, concerted effort to keep dissenting peer reviewed studies from being published in journals."<br /><br />This is incorrect. "Climategate" itself is the real hoax and has been debunked many times over <br /><br />https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/solutions/fight-misinformation/misterkrustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593047361808728232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-24723118557552212892019-08-28T07:14:48.995-07:002019-08-28T07:14:48.995-07:00Mr. Grannis:
I didn't want to mention this in ...Mr. Grannis:<br />I didn't want to mention this in my earlier comments because it might have influenced the comments that followed from other people.<br /><br />As I mentioned before: Placing a linear trend line on non-linear temperature data is often deceptive.<br /><br />The trend line you added to your chart, for example, shows warming, while just looking at the chart shows lots of The Cliff Claven of Financehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541954550199246606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-25920676072208072362019-08-28T02:12:48.795-07:002019-08-28T02:12:48.795-07:00"Outstanding accomplishment, which needed gov..."Outstanding accomplishment, which needed government intervention. "<br /><br />Why did it require government intervention?Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09325498485905547125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-27988621306177658752019-08-27T16:31:50.184-07:002019-08-27T16:31:50.184-07:00cbt141: "Many skeptics are actually less ske...cbt141: "Many skeptics are actually less skeptical about the possibility of warming and sea level rise than they are about the mandated, costly and inefficient counter measures that “believers” have offered as [the ONLY acceptable] solution to warming."<br /><br />Exactly, and in a nutshell (with edits)!randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16368254229927808998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-39530948715967497972019-08-27T16:20:05.976-07:002019-08-27T16:20:05.976-07:00Chicago’s temperature set its daily highs, monthly...Chicago’s temperature set its daily highs, monthly highs and yearly highs decades ago when CO2 levels were much lower. These records have yet to be exceeded, although CO2 levels have risen steadily since the records were set.<br /><br />• warmest year 1921<br />• warmest day 1934<br />• warmest month 1955<br />• warmest season 1955<br /><br /><br />pastedGraphic.png<br /><br />https://cbt141https://www.blogger.com/profile/16497584844044298481noreply@blogger.com