tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post8712996338837440316..comments2024-03-19T02:45:37.685-07:00Comments on Calafia Beach Pundit: What was missing in tonight's Republican debateScott Grannishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14028519647946868684noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-12140069432105500732011-09-28T10:10:47.896-07:002011-09-28T10:10:47.896-07:00PD Dennison, do you have something to back up that...PD Dennison, do you have something to back up that assertion? I'd be interested in seeing some kind of information confirming this.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17167327283573273716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-5072490501362411362011-09-25T15:37:19.301-07:002011-09-25T15:37:19.301-07:00Republicans have supported higher LEGAL immigratio...Republicans have supported higher LEGAL immigration quotas.<br /><br />Democrats have OPPOSED higher LEGAL immigration quotas, because Democrats gain from illegal immigration.PD Dennisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10012560806774461700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-46157434534231739862011-09-24T21:34:51.969-07:002011-09-24T21:34:51.969-07:00"any particular bunch of cells".
Wow. ..."any particular bunch of cells". <br /><br />Wow. I think we know the difference between a tumor and a fetus.<br /><br />A fetus (pronounced /ˈfiːtəs/; also spelled foetus, fœtus, faetus, or fætus) is a developing mammal or other viviparous vertebrate after the embryonic stage and before birth.<br /><br />Webster says an unborn mammal...starting at 2 months. <br /><br />And I love it Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04068805988034886750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-17135674499850080192011-09-24T17:40:39.640-07:002011-09-24T17:40:39.640-07:00OK Jeff, I am watching/listening to the video clip...OK Jeff, I am watching/listening to the video clips as I write. I am not impressed. Aside from his arrogance this *mathmetician* is applying inappropriate standards to biology, I would be happy to pursue this discussion out of the comments of Scott's blog. My email is nosoot(at)hughes.netDouglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17167327283573273716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-36584782974819765952011-09-24T14:42:10.578-07:002011-09-24T14:42:10.578-07:00Oh well, down the rabbit hole we go...
If you are...Oh well, down the rabbit hole we go...<br /><br />If you are going to define any particular bunch of cells as a person whether or not they are viable outside the mother land us in a quagmire constitutionally and legally speaking, it would seem to me. And ascribing personhood to a fetus from the moment of conception is a philosophical/theological assertion which is unprovable. My moral judgment Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17167327283573273716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-46680176714907776272011-09-24T09:01:05.705-07:002011-09-24T09:01:05.705-07:00And Douglas...you can believe a frog turns into a ...And Douglas...you can believe a frog turns into a prince if you want. But the science behind that fairy tale is not even close to convincing. <br /><br />Just ask Dr. David Berlinski...<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEDYr_fgcP8&feature=autoplay&list=PLF9DB30F6802BC5CE&playnext=1<br /><br />(it is a multi-part video)Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04068805988034886750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-66832894046800711582011-09-24T08:51:35.830-07:002011-09-24T08:51:35.830-07:00Douglas said...
"and abortion which no one h...Douglas said...<br /><br />"and abortion which no one has a right to decide but the woman involved and her medical provider"<br /><br />The constitution says...<br /><br />"...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."<br /><br />It is not the right of a woman to Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04068805988034886750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-49986996316445222152011-09-24T07:58:16.892-07:002011-09-24T07:58:16.892-07:00Like Douglas said.Like Douglas said.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365403570563730880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-85007550777099676682011-09-24T07:45:55.083-07:002011-09-24T07:45:55.083-07:00Scott,
You are certainly one of the smartest peop...Scott,<br /><br />You are certainly one of the smartest people I know, but the question you ask about who is better able to manage the economy comes up with a big "Neither!" and I am surprised you framed it in the way you did. It does not seem to me that the private sector has EVER earned kudos for "managing the economy" and certainly not recently. Government is a necessary Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17167327283573273716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-52480626463354175812011-09-23T15:00:19.722-07:002011-09-23T15:00:19.722-07:00BTW, has anyone told Rock Perry that a huge struct...BTW, has anyone told Rock Perry that a huge structural impediment is that wall we are building on the Mexican border? <br /><br />Immigration fuels population growth and terrific supply of labor. <br /><br />So, we can't boost the money supply due to structural impediments, but by the way, please keep out immigrants?Benjamin Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14001038338873263877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-18067721981520999342011-09-23T13:14:49.119-07:002011-09-23T13:14:49.119-07:00Frozen in The North,
Agreed we should not aspire ...Frozen in The North,<br /><br />Agreed we should not aspire to model the US after Sparta but that does not necessitate that the government has to be involved in how aid to those-less-fortunate is allocated.<br /><br />Before England decided to become a nanny state there was a very robust network of charities, or “Friendly Societies” as they were called. In 1877 there were 9 million people in asiequanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05558742092875363982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-46178847491952209932011-09-23T13:11:38.654-07:002011-09-23T13:11:38.654-07:00Benji,
Creation is not anti-science. Evolution i...Benji,<br /><br />Creation is not anti-science. Evolution is! <br /><br />In the fairy tales a princess kisses a frog and it turns into a prince. But in the real world you say a frog turns into a prince and call it science.<br /><br />Wow.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04068805988034886750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-1721066234788512082011-09-23T13:07:25.394-07:002011-09-23T13:07:25.394-07:00Scott,
I finally have to disagree with you strong...Scott,<br /><br />I finally have to disagree with you strongly. Abortion is not a "bedroom" issue...it is a life issue. And if an unborn child is a "life" then the federal government not only has the right, but the constitutional obligation, to protect that life.<br /><br />And gay marriage shout not be a federal issue at all, states regulate marriage. But federal (and Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04068805988034886750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-75626701242752462011-09-23T12:13:29.403-07:002011-09-23T12:13:29.403-07:00@Rick:
I'm not aware of any majority opinion o...@Rick:<br />I'm not aware of any majority opinion or even a significant minority that advocates "unlimited commission to exercise every power which may be alleged to be necessary for the common defense or general welfare."<br /><br />Having said that, the $1-3 trillion spent to invade and occupy Iraq hasn't made me feel any safer. 56,000 troops stationed in Germany don't Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365403570563730880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-859723290850024192011-09-23T09:59:02.691-07:002011-09-23T09:59:02.691-07:00John, you should have read Federalist 41 written b...John, you should have read Federalist 41 written by James Madison before you posted your opinion about the general welfare clause that begins Article I, Section 8. He wrote:<br /><br />"It has been urged and echoed that the power 'to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States' Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07767085539237536998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-44279864597786589652011-09-23T08:54:51.172-07:002011-09-23T08:54:51.172-07:00I wish the real GOP was the one described by Scot ...I wish the real GOP was the one described by Scot Grannis.<br /><br />Ethanol? Mandated use of ethanol? The Interior Department? The USDA? <br /><br />$3,333 fro every man woman and child in the United States for the Department of Defense, Homeland Security and the VA? Every year? That's $13k for a family of four, Every year. That's double (in real terms) of 10 years ago. That's $Benjamin Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14001038338873263877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-77118819284359282282011-09-23T08:34:15.267-07:002011-09-23T08:34:15.267-07:00Immigration seems like such a slam-dunk cause, yet...Immigration seems like such a slam-dunk cause, yet it has been stymied since Bush's time.<br /><br />More immigrants will create economic growth. More people to buy food, and bikes, and cars, and toys for the kids, and houses...and depending on your point of view - more people to be in the army when things with China come to a head.David Waltzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415644204743030961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-91234620075114249792011-09-23T08:16:58.920-07:002011-09-23T08:16:58.920-07:00The government needs reconfiguring, reduction in s...The government needs reconfiguring, reduction in size, less power, and access to money.<br /><br />However, neither the Democrats or Republicans are set to achieve any of it. If you feel the need to applaud the better of the worse so be it, but these types of hard-line beliefs about red and blue are keep the beast fed.<br /><br />Republicans will be equally adept at social engineering us into a Public Libraryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017383928897945054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-12788755331164936022011-09-23T06:58:28.653-07:002011-09-23T06:58:28.653-07:00There are six businesses in our little town that a...There are six businesses in our little town that accept Supplemental Nutrition Aid Program (SNAP) (food stamp) payments. The "nonproductive class" has to eat, too. Somebody sells them stuff.<br /><br />Even the BP gas station accepts SNAP. It doesn't have to. It makes money off of the SNAP. <br /><br />Frozen in the North is right about the vague and flexible aspect of the Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365403570563730880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-75544654774280807192011-09-23T06:45:33.333-07:002011-09-23T06:45:33.333-07:00Watching the debate here on the meaning of the con...Watching the debate here on the meaning of the constitution is like counting the number of angels that would fit on the head of a pin -- mostly a waste of time.<br /><br />The constitution was intentionally left vague, first because it was the only way it was going to be ratified by all the states, but also because the writers understood that they could not predict the future, and the excessive Frozen in the Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901959687094626879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-34567008647437129892011-09-23T06:38:44.210-07:002011-09-23T06:38:44.210-07:00Richmond: furthering our common point about Artic...Richmond: furthering our common point about Article I, even Alexander Hamilton (who opposed Madison's arguments about the limitations of Congressional spending) conceded that there are limits to such spending, specifically that spending had to be limited to "general" -- understood by one and all to be national, not local -- welfare. <br /><br />For our purposes here, however, the Jon S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14840074248344452572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-13639697509407735812011-09-23T06:03:29.689-07:002011-09-23T06:03:29.689-07:00Nice try John, but a complete misrepresentation of...Nice try John, but a complete misrepresentation of Article I. I do not believe that when the framers referred to "general welfare" they envisioned a behemoth federal government and IRS that extracts hundreds of billions of dollars of earnings from the productive class and, through the efforts of hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats, redistribute it to the non-productive class.<br /><brRichmondG30https://www.blogger.com/profile/15406119391866964600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-86502487522230771482011-09-23T06:02:34.048-07:002011-09-23T06:02:34.048-07:00John: I think at least one of Scott's points h...John: I think at least one of Scott's points here is that you cannot call it charity when you are using other people's money. As for the Article I clause you invoked, the same one I cited in my post, the original meaning of providing for the "general Welfare" was not that Congress could spend on anything and everything, but rather that they could spend money on activities Jon S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14840074248344452572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-85585688752713082292011-09-23T05:48:27.980-07:002011-09-23T05:48:27.980-07:00"when they create government programs to take..."when they create government programs to take care of these people, they are doing charitable works with other people's money. That's not charity, that's theft, and it's immoral."<br /><br />But then, there's this, Scott, from Article I of the U.S. Constitution:<br /><br />"Section 8. Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365403570563730880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-60346315228421660682011-09-23T05:48:26.869-07:002011-09-23T05:48:26.869-07:00Scott -- I like all of your policy prescriptions, ...Scott -- I like all of your policy prescriptions, but I can't agree that the party has become isolationist and anti-immigrant. Some contenders have, but none of the leading candidates can be so characterized. Disagreement with Obama on a few specifics, like Afghanistan, is not indicative of isolationism, nor is taking tough stands on illegal immigration -- key word illegal here, which so Jon S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14840074248344452572noreply@blogger.com