tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post523165525234506234..comments2024-03-28T00:18:25.641-07:00Comments on Calafia Beach Pundit: The dangers of crony capitalismScott Grannishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14028519647946868684noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-23045517579910246972012-09-13T12:27:40.491-07:002012-09-13T12:27:40.491-07:00" The Koch brothers have been consistent advo..." The Koch brothers have been consistent advocates for more liberty. "<br /><br />My favorite Koch Brothers exercise in liberty advocation is funding voter-suppression legislation. <br /><br />My 2nd favorite is funding anti-union legislation. <br /><br />My 3rd favorite is funding climate-change deniers.<br /><br />Oddly the also seem to like donating to Nova on PBS. At least they and bt1138https://www.blogger.com/profile/12843326237379459791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-42255344605361127692012-09-11T06:57:58.308-07:002012-09-11T06:57:58.308-07:00Anonyx, sure, always so easy to dismiss "a co...Anonyx, sure, always so easy to dismiss "a couple of disgruntled former middle managers". I take it you've never been tested as a whistle blower yourself then ? No, you're probably too busy enjoying your creature comforts, like Scott, and to hell with the world beyond your own bank account.<br /><br />Here's some more reading on thos wonderful capitalist saints the Koch Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-3920030300402276442012-09-11T03:45:23.187-07:002012-09-11T03:45:23.187-07:00Rob, you seem fixated on this narrative of the &qu...Rob, you seem fixated on this narrative of the "evil Koch brothers," without any attempt on your part to better understand the company. Scott has some direct experience. The fact that it doesn't square with some article or talking points you read makes you angry? Why not reevaluate your own opinions? <br /><br />So what do we have here? It looks like to me a couple of Anonyxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457276381315349743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-20823311953137592422012-09-11T03:16:39.338-07:002012-09-11T03:16:39.338-07:00To clarify my last post: Are u saying that Koch ha...To clarify my last post: Are u saying that Koch has never been part of crony capitalism ?! If it paid bribes, rigged prices and markets or did other unethical things this was somehow better because at least it wasnt sucking from the teet of Government ?<br /><br />What a strange world u must live in.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-45023152112115857042012-09-11T03:07:39.127-07:002012-09-11T03:07:39.127-07:00"Let me be clear that both parties are guilty..."Let me be clear that both parties are guilty of crony capitalism, as are many businesses."<br /><br />So once again the more nuanced view has to be dragged out of you !!! When will u learn to think more before you shoot your mouth off ?!<br /><br />You were just waxing lyrical about how amazing, genius, fantastic Koch is. Now following my quotations from (evil liberal) Bloomberg you Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-46247379641636362482012-09-10T20:23:04.932-07:002012-09-10T20:23:04.932-07:00Bill, Marmico's own link demonstrates it, and ...Bill, Marmico's own link demonstrates it, and he's calling someone else innumerate. I read Scott's blog regularly, but rarely dip into the comments, so I'm not familiar with Marmico, but Marmico's argument is laughable.Anonyxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457276381315349743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-23281089518339251812012-09-10T18:53:11.571-07:002012-09-10T18:53:11.571-07:00Yes, our favorite Troll Marmico ignores the CBO da...Yes, our favorite Troll Marmico ignores the CBO data which shows that government spending as a percentage of GDP is on the rise and headed to unsustainable levels. Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06910619601367464068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-76402890239681291872012-09-10T18:02:13.609-07:002012-09-10T18:02:13.609-07:00If not being perfect were a disqualification for p...If not being perfect were a disqualification for public office, Washington would be empty—on both sides of the aisle. If businesses didn't maximize profit, our living standards would be far lower today. Few people have created as many jobs and advanced living standards by as much as the Koch brothers. And in case you were unaware, Bloomberg news has a strong liberal bias.<br /><br />Let me beScott Grannishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14028519647946868684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-67764495395297470972012-09-10T17:51:08.852-07:002012-09-10T17:51:08.852-07:00"Former company employees testified that Koch..."Former company employees testified that Koch Industries trained them to steal ... “You used every available tool to mismeasure the crude oil in Koch’s favor,” says Dubose, who is now retired."Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-38673599012033367592012-09-10T17:46:28.882-07:002012-09-10T17:46:28.882-07:00"Koch-Glitsch told employees in 2006 that the..."Koch-Glitsch told employees in 2006 that the company was winding down business in Iran, Bentu says. At that point, he says, his bosses still asked him to work on Iran bids. He says he told them he was no longer willing to sign off on such work, leading to arguments between Bentu and his managers.<br /><br />‘Totally Betrayed’<br /><br />Bentu says he felt dismayed because Koch Industries Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-52488704795595514672012-09-10T17:40:21.870-07:002012-09-10T17:40:21.870-07:00"Sally Barnes-Soliz, who’s now an investigato..."Sally Barnes-Soliz, who’s now an investigator for the State Department of Labor and Industries in Washington, says that when she worked for Koch, her bosses and a company lawyer at the Koch refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas, asked her to falsify data for a report to the state on uncontrolled emissions of benzene, a known cause of cancer. Barnes-Soliz, who testified to a federal grand jury, Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-67631529133831055992012-09-10T17:31:40.537-07:002012-09-10T17:31:40.537-07:00OK, that's it Scott, you just lose all credibi...OK, that's it Scott, you just lose all credibility and look ridiculous with these kind of politically-motivated rantings ! Your complete lack of nuance, usually expressed in the form of overly rosy economic predictions, just looks naive, blinkered and downright immoral when you start cheerleading for people like the Koch brothers.<br /><br />A summary of the Bloomberg piece on Koch, publishedRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062180895899998738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-39958533100932915602012-09-10T16:34:50.417-07:002012-09-10T16:34:50.417-07:00Marmico, just what do you think your chart says? ...Marmico, just what do you think your chart says? Please educate us innumerates, as I read it and see a government that has grown massively in the time scale provided, and only dipped slightly in the past few quarters (perhaps as it's been hard to continue to repeat the out of control "stimulus").Anonyxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457276381315349743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-91918456684304991492012-09-10T15:44:28.230-07:002012-09-10T15:44:28.230-07:00"A democracy is always temporary in nature; i..."A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12616454339935658018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-62584194189589385382012-09-10T14:43:21.571-07:002012-09-10T14:43:21.571-07:00Ok, I am not sure of the veracity of this, but I r...Ok, I am not sure of the veracity of this, but I remember T. Boone Pickens vilifying the Koch Brothers for trying to artificially keep natural gas down in price due to it's importance for making fertilizers. T. Boone is no crazy liberal, and I don't want to be cynical, but it wouldn't be the first time that someone professed free market answers while also sucking at the teat of Sad and Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13704264122314578856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-35962800932764627552012-09-10T12:50:17.411-07:002012-09-10T12:50:17.411-07:00"...the Federal Reserve's artificial, bel..."...the Federal Reserve's artificial, below-market interest-rate policy."<br /><br />At least someone has the brass to call it what it is...Public Libraryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00017383928897945054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-64528305879682037902012-09-10T12:38:54.963-07:002012-09-10T12:38:54.963-07:00What is most appalling to me is how the democrats ...What is most appalling to me is how the democrats and media have successfully framed any opposition to Obama as racism, when it is all about his disastrous policies. And how he wins on the likability scale is beyond me. Has he given a speech in the last four years that has not pitted one group of Americans against another? I’d like to know. Here is the best line from his DNC acceptance speechTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11038684416599422217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-70646780769406626222012-09-10T12:21:45.691-07:002012-09-10T12:21:45.691-07:00David Koch:
“I think it’s essential to be able to...<a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80483.html" rel="nofollow">David Koch</a>:<br /><br /><i>“I think it’s essential to be able to achieve spending reductions and maybe it’s going to require some tax increases,” he said. “We got to come close to balancing the budget; otherwise, we’re in a terrible deep problem.”</i><br /><br />Sage words.Lawyer in NJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02920739130504981369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-19484131921673506192012-09-10T12:15:49.018-07:002012-09-10T12:15:49.018-07:00I guess folks really want their free stuff and par...<i>I guess folks really want their free stuff and partnership with the government.</i><br /><br />You are <a href="http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=atj" rel="nofollow">innumerate</a>!marmicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08277071086056574486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-9513628634016818202012-09-10T11:43:30.682-07:002012-09-10T11:43:30.682-07:00Common sense? That seems to no longer apply these ...Common sense? That seems to no longer apply these days...Cabodoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299113185481067179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-18925038128956474672012-09-10T10:46:36.156-07:002012-09-10T10:46:36.156-07:00I know we're still close to the Democratic con...I know we're still close to the Democratic convention, but it's depressing to see that Obama is ahead of Romney by 5 points in Rasmussen's poll today and that he's now enjoying an approval rating of 52% even after that horrible jobs report on Friday. I guess folks really want their free stuff and partnership with the government.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06910619601367464068noreply@blogger.com