tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post448467252493167478..comments2024-03-18T13:22:06.536-07:00Comments on Calafia Beach Pundit: More Kudos to Paul RyanScott Grannishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14028519647946868684noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-25722550503379016842011-05-19T18:24:51.688-07:002011-05-19T18:24:51.688-07:00@John Short,
Your opening salvo was expression of...@John Short,<br /><br />Your opening salvo was expression of the Politics of Jealousy, a kind of politics that has nothing to do with truth and public finance.<br /><br />You wrote, "Anybody who does not consider repudiating the bush tax cuts does not care about the deficit.<br /><br />"the rich have the lowest tax rate in 50 years. The gap between rich and the poor is the biggest in 50Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-64591294177077033892011-05-19T18:15:18.435-07:002011-05-19T18:15:18.435-07:00Stating that you hallucinated is not ad homimem.
...Stating that you hallucinated is not ad homimem. <br /><br />Lowering marginal tax rates isn't a cut in taxes. Why go with the flow of those easily suckered by rhetoric and because so, getting the whole of the problem wrong?<br /><br />Monkeying around with marginal rates soothes the anger of those jealous against persons superior to them but does nothing to puncture the upward bound of Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-12340555679104505132011-05-19T18:03:01.050-07:002011-05-19T18:03:01.050-07:00@Smack
I just hope you realize it was you who st...@Smack <br /><br />I just hope you realize it was you who started the ad hominem attacks first! Which is funny. You called me hallucinating two times before I copied your behavior, for fun.<br /><br />I read your explanation why your <br /><br />""Again, the U.S. is incapable of increasing revenue above an annual sum that exceeds 19% of GDP in any fiscal year."<br /><br />is a John Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-7942668715857075442011-05-19T08:30:35.391-07:002011-05-19T08:30:35.391-07:00@John Short
Here. I shall school you on communica...@John Short<br /><br />Here. I shall school you on communication (human interaction).<br /><br />You write, <br /><br />"... you are unable to grasp what i am actually talking about. You probably think am talking about something completely else."<br /><br />That's your fault. The sender is responsible for the message and not the receiver.<br /><br />"It seems you also lack Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-23353742117002203952011-05-19T05:46:42.661-07:002011-05-19T05:46:42.661-07:00Seems like you have stopped making arguments and s...Seems like you have stopped making arguments and started calling mentally unstable and sort of. That's weak.<br /><br /><br />It seems you also lack common sense, I will repeat what I said earlier. Your argument <br /><br />"Again, the U.S. is incapable of increasing revenue above an annual sum that exceeds 19% of GDP in any fiscal year."<br /><br /><br />does not influence my John Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-41049728476064563412011-05-18T10:57:34.544-07:002011-05-18T10:57:34.544-07:00You miss the obvious point that increasing revenue...You miss the obvious point that increasing revenue makes deficit smaller also.@John Short<br /><br />And now you're being daft and you're revealing perhaps mental instability.<br /><br />You would have firm ground to stand upon if you claimed "Your argument sounds like the one proffered by the Fair Tax proponents." <br /><br />Yet, you have not done so. In short, you suck at ad Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-47994572216213267802011-05-18T10:42:42.174-07:002011-05-18T10:42:42.174-07:00@Smack
Denying that you are using arguments by pr...@Smack<br /><br />Denying that you are using arguments by pro fair tax vs progressive tax, yet using the exact same arguments, can only mean one thing, denying "truth". If you come up independently with these arguments it doesn't matter, it's still the same kind of arguments. It is mind-boggling that you talk about "truth", when you yourself have realized "truth&John Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-35238210584503993022011-05-17T16:33:41.239-07:002011-05-17T16:33:41.239-07:00@John Short.
I am not using arguments of made by ...@John Short.<br /><br />I am not using arguments of made by fair tax supporters vs. progressive tax. <br /><br />You have hallucinated to fit a fantasy reel that is playing in your head.<br /><br />Rather than hallucinate, why not ask me, merely from where I've come up with the factual data?<br /><br />It's irrelevant what you have calculated.<br /><br />Truth remains. Regardless of what Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-69811051639408154292011-05-17T15:46:29.457-07:002011-05-17T15:46:29.457-07:00@ Sporting dude
When you postate that tinkering a...@ Sporting dude<br /><br />When you postate that tinkering around with tax rates don't matter, because it doesn't bring revenue you are using arguments made by fair tax supporters vs. progressive tax. It is very relevant, so I brought it up.<br /><br />Also, I have calculated the effect not to be net zero. It nets 4% reduction in the deficit.John Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-55659854384400621532011-05-17T09:14:04.061-07:002011-05-17T09:14:04.061-07:00Meanwhile, Dow is down again--and who is against Q...Meanwhile, Dow is down again--and who is against QE3?<br /><br />Martin Feldstein, Reagan economist, predicted a DJIA tumble of 20 percent if no QE3.<br /><br />Ouch. The United States of Japan, here we come.Benjamin Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14001038338873263877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-77230092676072102772011-05-17T08:52:19.730-07:002011-05-17T08:52:19.730-07:00@John Short
You have hallucinated. No where in my...@John Short<br /><br />You have hallucinated. No where in my comments can you find any words that express achievable better results from "fair tax" or "progressive tax."<br /><br />The lowering of marginal tax rates during the Bush administration, what rhetorically gets accepted as "the Bush tax cuts" has nothing to do with deficit reduction.<br /><br />A deficit is Stone Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02614217606480382390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-70486984090501043132011-05-17T06:06:45.823-07:002011-05-17T06:06:45.823-07:00The problem with Ryan's plan is that it will n...The problem with Ryan's plan is that it will never sell -- austerity for the masses is not a hot ticket item -- that leaves only monetary expansion (inflation) or default -- the economic crisis in America can only be resolved by three means: default, austerity, or inflation -- the US Congress will not allow a default (Congress would be unemployed), and austerity measures will never be voted McKibbinUSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10545798495680527622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-2208426041235627782011-05-17T03:23:16.365-07:002011-05-17T03:23:16.365-07:00@Smack
You can discuss into the end of eternity w...@Smack <br />You can discuss into the end of eternity whether progressive tax fair tax or any other tax system provided better results. You can discuss a mile away whether the bush tax cuts were truly tax cuts. It doens't change the fact that if you don't talk about the Bush tax cuts, and at the same time you talk about being the one person to reduce the deficit, you are not serious at John Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-85593453699826822582011-05-16T22:39:59.342-07:002011-05-16T22:39:59.342-07:00@John Short
"Bush tax cuts" is mere rhe...@John Short<br /><br />"Bush tax cuts" is mere rhetoric. What tax cuts? A record sum of taxes were collected during the Bush years. Nothing was cut.<br /><br />Marginal tax rates were lowered, but a lowering of rates isn't a "cut".<br /><br />Since the collection of income taxes, no Congress in U.S. history has ever cut taxes.<br /><br />Presidents have nothing to do with Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-33472396027541829632011-05-16T22:25:28.822-07:002011-05-16T22:25:28.822-07:00to Smack
I do get it. According to my own calcula...to Smack<br /><br />I do get it. According to my own calculations, repealing the bush tax cuts will only net 4% reduction in the deficit. It has nothing to do with jealousy or anger, but the cold hard facts. Yet I am still pro-repealing the tax cuts for the rich, even though it nets only 4%. Why? Consistency. The main idea of my message was that even ignoring this small "exemption" fromJohn Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-25995466552092025072011-05-16T22:16:13.034-07:002011-05-16T22:16:13.034-07:00benjamin,
im not sure hes Ryan is talking about i...benjamin,<br /><br />im not sure hes Ryan is talking about inflation. I think he means bubbles in the prices of assets, as in real estate, oil, tech stocks, agriculture, debt, economics degrees, etc. The Fed has provided the lighter fluid to fuel the asset bubbles of the past 2 decades.acrossthecurvehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16425254934059527965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-23143511820601264922011-05-16T20:22:30.029-07:002011-05-16T20:22:30.029-07:00Corporate America pulled the plug on the middle cl...Corporate America pulled the plug on the middle class. The government kept it going for a while by making it easy to borrow.<br /><br />It's all over now but the finger pointing.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06365403570563730880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-20738545119038481862011-05-16T15:30:52.199-07:002011-05-16T15:30:52.199-07:00Commenter John Short doesn't get it. Regardles...Commenter John Short doesn't get it. Regardless of marginal rates on income, the total taxes collected by the U.S. government as a percentage of GDP falls within a tight band.<br /><br />Monkeying around with marginal rates soothes the anger of those jealous against persons superior to them -- the more successful.<br /><br />However, doing so does not change truth, that smarter humans alter Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670679483567026276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-23404787104640844222011-05-16T13:23:59.273-07:002011-05-16T13:23:59.273-07:00This is the same guy that voted for Medicare D.This is the same guy that voted for Medicare D.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18116121761413049785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-16606761403809441202011-05-16T13:15:11.872-07:002011-05-16T13:15:11.872-07:00The day that the GOP is ready to cut farming subsi...The day that the GOP is ready to cut farming subsidy is the day they are ready to give up, politically, on the midwest. The day the GOP gives up on oil subsidy is the day they will decide that they don't need any money to run for office.<br /><br />Subsidies are the life and blood of a politician's re-election financing.<br /><br />Finally, Mr. Ryan believes that everyone but his Frozen in the Northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04901959687094626879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-41628258624164522402011-05-16T13:11:14.135-07:002011-05-16T13:11:14.135-07:00In general, I agree with Ryan, but too often he re...In general, I agree with Ryan, but too often he retreats to politically safe Republican shibboleths instead of bona fide deficit-fighting.<br /><br />1. Defense Spending? When we spend double in real terms what we spent just 10 years ago (and that level was bloated by Cold War ossification), and we face no serious military threats, surely this topic needs to be addressed. <br /><br />2. No Benjamin Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14001038338873263877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6616959642391988608.post-38619290408080642242011-05-16T13:04:37.061-07:002011-05-16T13:04:37.061-07:00Anybody who does not consider repudiating the bush...Anybody who does not consider repudiating the bush tax cuts does not care about the deficit.<br /><br />While it's true that taxing the rich won't solve the problem, it is also true that the two following facts are clear: the rich have the lowest tax rate in 50 years. The gap between rich and the poor is the biggest in 50 years.<br /><br />Conveniently ignoring these two facts, I can onlyJohn Short ad sinorazumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06294518362102475267noreply@blogger.com